Do not deal with these guys at Kelowna Gold Buyer or Northwest diamonds,. They are scammers and will rip you off the first opportunity they get. Orun and Sonny are partners in this scam. They ripped me of of 10 ounces of gold. I had them melt some placer gold, actually 613 grams of course and fine gold. they claimed it had a lot of lead in it and took 3 hours of melting with a lot of black smoke to try and refine it. Then they showed me a gold bar, but it obviously had lead pour on top of it and claimed they only recovered 9 ounces. rip of artist's every one of them there